Soul Ties

Join Cynthia Martin and Patsy Shreve as they discuss Soul Ties. These ties affect us in our soul. They are physical and also emotional.

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Hello everyone we are here again and
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welcome to Lunch and Learn I'm Cynthia
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Martin you're one of your hosts my Patsy
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Shreve and today's topic is going to be
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about "Soul Ties" that's right Patsy and
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one of the things about Soul Ties is
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that you know it's like I was just
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reading an article and the article said
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something that I thought was really
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interesting that there are three types
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of information and for those of you who
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don't know I'm traveling and I'm at my
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third daughter's house and my
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three-year-old granddaughter may shoot
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through the back here I'm at her her
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house visiting with them and I'm
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upstairs in my bedroom she has a
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beautiful farmhouse I love it so you see
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a child run through it's my
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granddaughter and she's Paisley and I'm
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very proud about how beautiful she is
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but anyway I was reading this article
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and it was talking about three types of
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information
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there's familiar information which I
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thought was really interesting because
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you know there's so much time Patsey
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that we know things about things because
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you know we've been through ministry
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school you know we're not spring
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chickens we've not let me know we've
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been around a few times and so there's
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the familiar information that you and I
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know that many of us in christendom if
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that's a word know about we've heard it
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before and so we hear it you know we
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think I remember my daughter's telling
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me one time that she was raised at a
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Christian school and she'd had Bible her
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whole life and she told me I just know
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all that stuff mom it's just boring you
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know she doesn't believe that anymore
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but choosing a teacher teenager imagine
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that but I think sometimes this
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Christian we get that way when someone
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announces the topic we think I've heard
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that before and I know about that I've
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dealt with it I don't need to hear
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anymore
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I think it's important that we listen
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because sometimes you know God will show
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us something new or as a lot of our
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clients will tell us Patsy even just
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this last one or that we work with they
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feel like they're an onion and they just
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got to a new place and a new level and
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which God wants to deal with some things
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and then the second type of information
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was unfamiliar and I have a tendency to
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be a little skeptical myself and I'll go
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home and look it up myself but if
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someone tells me something I'm thinking
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I'm not quite sure about that I don't
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you know I'm just not super trusting I
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probably should be but a little bit more
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trusting than I am but at least I go
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home and look it up make sure but you
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know there are some things that we come
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across that are unfamiliar and you know
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you and I have been into chased all over
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you know United States and going to
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different meetings and we're like no and
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then we wouldn't we like Bob that's
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that's really interesting I don't know
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how does this connect tonight so I think
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it's important for those who are
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listening today if they hear something
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or they hear this term or how we're
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going to explain it because we do it a
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bit differently that they don't just
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wipe it out because they've never heard
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of that before but you know kind of like
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because the word so ties itself isn't
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really in the scripture the concept is
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but it isn't and then the third is the
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uncomfortable and you know we see those
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kinds we come against those and we come
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up up with those when we're ministering
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to clients it's an area in which they
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have protected because they don't want
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to know because if you know then you're
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responsible so today as we're sharing
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about the topic of soul ties I would
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like you know you to whoever you are to
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think about those three to make sure
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that you don't just push this
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information off being one of those three
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as we tell our clients just humor us for
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a little while maybe you'll learn
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something maybe you won't and if you
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don't that's great we're glad that
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you're holding free but if you have a
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struggle this may be one area so soul
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ties today we're going to talk about I'm
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gonna define it a little bit or so tie
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isn't in the Bible you can't do a search
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you can't go to Bible gateway you can't
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look it up and and your concordance you
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can't do a deep deep dive study and
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search for the word soul ties it's not
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there it's like Sunday school isn't
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there the rapture isn't there it's a
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concept that we've put words to to
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explain what happens when two people
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come together so a definition of a soul
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tie could be knit or basically the
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biblical definition where we see it is
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in the word knit k and k nit you know
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like we knit and cleave being stuck -
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those are the two words that we find in
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Scripture that
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really point out and define the topic of
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so types so when we net think about that
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grandmas you know where grandmas buy
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don't knit but will you knit together
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something and it's tied together and
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sometimes it can make something
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beautiful but if it was mean and it
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wouldn't be something that's beautiful
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and if it's cleave it's kind of a path
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he's gonna have a really cool example
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later on us we're talking about this I
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love this analogy or this this
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demonstration that she does it's an in
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here two fastened together to be glued
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or to be joined and to be linked
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together that's really what we're
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talking about when we talk about soul
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ties and so that leads us to point one
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and our first point is that there are
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godly soul ties so there can be sexual
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or non-sexual soul ties what we call
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soul ties that are godly between you and
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God is a perfect example that is a good
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healthy tie a good healthy binding
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together in Janis
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or in Deuteronomy 10 20 it says to him
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you shall hold fast because we are to
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hold fast to God and to be close to him
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and to to cling to him and it can be
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between your children can be a healthy
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tie Jacob and Benjamin in Genesis 44 30
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since his life is bound up in the lads
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life is what it was talking about and so
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it talks about how his father was was
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concerned about him was was in a
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positive way could be now there can be
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negative and we'll talk about that later
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too because there can be negative
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elements to being bound up in your
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child's life but there are good positive
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things where we can really have an
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interest in our child's life and and and
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do things with them and to to be there
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for them also there can be a good soul
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tie between good friends Jonathan and
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David were good friends in the Bible and
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in First Samuel 18 when it says the soul
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of Jonathan was knit to the soul of
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David and there we see the word knit and
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so it meant they were two very close
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close friends they loved each other in a
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in a not in a good way where they were
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they were buddies and pals and they did
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everything together and they were
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concerned for each other and they looked
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out for each other's back it was like
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they had a covenant right right exactly
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there was a covenant between them to
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just watch out for each other and to to
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take care of each other and then between
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you and your spouse in Matthew 19 5
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through 6 it says for this cause a man
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shall leave his father and mother and
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shall cleave to his wife the two shall
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become one flesh so then they are no
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longer two but one flesh and so there's
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a godly element to soul ties that are
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good but then there's other soul ties
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that we're gonna be talking about
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Cynthia
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exactly so Patsy that's such a great
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explanation and the ungodly soul ties
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that you know and what we're concerned
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about today because our hearts is that
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you walk and wholeness and freedom in
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1st Corinthians chapter 6 verse 16 and
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17 the scripture tells us do you not
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know that he who unites himself with a
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prostitute is one with her and body so
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it's talking about a sexual Union and
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we're talking in in in particular he
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uses the the idea of a prostitute but we
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know from that Scripture that whoever
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you unite yourself with is you become
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one with them and it continues on it
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says for it it is said the two will
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become one flesh you know in many
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marriage ceremonies we quote that we
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talk about that we use that on our
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invitations we put it on our marriage
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little booklets that we have and so we
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have another example and Genesis 34 1
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and 3 talks about the story of sketch
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sketch um I always have a hard time with
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his work because I wanted makeup in it
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because it's Hebrew and dinah dinah was
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an Israelite and and skycam was the son
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of the king of the area where they were
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she went out to see the daughters of the
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land and he took her he saw her he had
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less horror he took her he lay with her
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and it created a soul tie and so there's
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a soul tie between you and every person
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that you have been sexually
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active with whether it was willing or
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unwilling and in this particular case
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the the scripture point said that she
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was she was raped and so there's a tie
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it's something that's taken from units
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of violence so there are times that we
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give in or give over us ladies or men
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before we're married with other people
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and also there are times then things
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happen to us in the instances of rape
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and incest in things before we really
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understand what's happening so if you've
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had some sort of a sexual encounter
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before marriage with whomever and we'll
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talk a little bit about that whether
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that be your spouse whether it be your
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former spouse if you've been married
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before or whether that's been with
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someone that you were you know just
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hanging out with or a one-night stand or
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whether you've had any kind of in sexual
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relationship or any if you were
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promiscuous all you know the whole gamut
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of any kind of sexual relation ship
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together so Patsy's gonna actually show
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a diagram here and hopefully I can
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explain it and if you can see you see
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John and Mary John is in the blue and
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Mary's in the pink and they are so
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excited they get together and they've
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met you know in a godly way they're
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godly people and they've decided to get
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married whoa congregation is so excited
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because John and Mary are going to get
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married however John has had a past and
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we know that when we get saved we asked
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for forgiveness right but John has had a
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relationship with two women so he may
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have asked God to forgive him of his
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sins but Jan and sue the Bible tells us
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that she that he became one with them so
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all their stuff is also John's now
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unless you start with it and then John
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and Jan and Sue also had relationships
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with two men so we have Bob and Ted and
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Scott and Dan and those four and those
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two are now coming into the relationship
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with John so John is bringing one two
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three four five six seven people
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to the relationship the four men the two
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women is that right four five six and
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then himself so he's bringing seven
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people into the relationship with him
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and then we have Mary god bless Mary but
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you know Mary has a past too
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she's also had a sexual relationship
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with Mike and Jake and then Mike and
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Jake have had relationships my kind of
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relationship with Jim and with Cindy and
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then Jake has had a relationship with
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Patty and with Lisa and also Mary is
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bringing seven people to the
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relationship the six that she the two
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that she had relationship the two that
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those people had relationship with and
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then ourselves so that seven mention all
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the other people the price people could
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have it exactly people exactly Patsy
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because we're being conservative today
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right yeah most people you know have had
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sexual relationships with more than two
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people in their lifetime unfortunately
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as the culture goes that tends to be the
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truth so in this very conservative view
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they're coming together and John has
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seven and Mary has seven so there are 14
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people and all their stuff all their
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stuff you know if one of them had mental
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problems that can be in Yorba in your
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line one of them had physical problems
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that could be in your line if one of
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them had anger problems that could be in
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your line so folks we're not giving you
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license to say that any sin that you
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perform is because I wasn't me it was
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John that I had a relationship with
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because you're still responsible but it
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could be some residual left over from a
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former relationship so it's important
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that you think about these things and
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that you deal with those so ties go
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ahead Patsy yeah and so that we what
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we're going to be doing and what we're
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gonna explain is how to cut these off so
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that you and John or John and Mary can
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have a healthy healthy sexual
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relationship in your marriage or a
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healthy emotional relationship in their
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marriage so that they're not carrying
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all of this baggage and who knows how
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many baggages they're coming
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for these guys up here and these guys
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down here so what what we do is we cut
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it off and let them renounce and break
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those off of us so that we're free to be
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able to have a healthy relationship
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exactly in Patsy
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before we move on to the next
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illustration you've been married for a
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long time you've been married how long
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you married for 30 years
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47 years and 47 years okay applause
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applause god bless you but I love Jim
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you know I love Jim but you know he
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brought stuff to the relationship it was
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just gym stuff and his family stuff it's
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hard to have a marriage right yeah and
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so you brought stuff up nearly just you
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so in John and Mary's case if they just
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brought themselves and their families
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that would be awfully hard to have a
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marriage relationship but can you
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imagine happened to deal with 14 14 plus
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people's stuff and have a marriage
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relationship and we wonder why marriage
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is hard
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right exactly so patty share with us the
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next piece that I love this illustration
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so here you are you're in love and or
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you you and I and your significant other
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whether you're married or whether you're
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not married normally when you're not
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married is what we're going to be
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talking about and you come together and
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you're joined together like the Bible
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said you've cleaved together you've been
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knitted together you've become one flesh
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so here we are one flesh well then so
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now you say well you know that's not
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gonna work out that's not the one for me
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we're gonna break up we're gonna leave
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and so when you break up and come apart
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from each other so what happens is when
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you come apart from each other
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you end up leaving part of you with them
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and part of them with you in my heart
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here is not tearing apart real well
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because that's what happens as we leave
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so meanly got hearts and if it's a
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really nasty breakup yes you are ending
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up leaving part of yourself with them
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and them with you and so we end up
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having fragmented pieces of ourselves
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here and there and everywhere and also
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it just causes part of our heart to be
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broken that's right and empty and
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missing there's parts of our heart that
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are missing and then part of them which
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isn't showing here but a lot of times
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their their stuff clings to us too and
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so and so we see how we end up with
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their junk and they end up with our junk
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you're pointing to it right here look at
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hole in the middle and what's really sad
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is that people try to go out and find
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another relationship to fill and no
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other relationship will ever fill that
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hole because this is you it needs those
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pieces need to be brought back and you
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need to be in wholeness before you can
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go into another relationship and have a
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whole relationship because you're not
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bringing a whole part of you a whole
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person to a relationship sliding down my
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chair here that's right we have all
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these pieces exactly and we wonder why
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we can't have healthy relationships and
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every time it rips off more of ourselves
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that more of ourselves
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and we take on more of the other people
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sorry Betsy I just know that's why
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that's like oh my gosh that is so true
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that's why we daily struggle people
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struggle daily with other people's
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baggage and you think it's your own and
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you think it's your stuff but a lot of
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times and some of it is some of it is
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your stuff yeah but a lot of times
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you're struggling with things maybe
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you've never been involved in some
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things and you're wondering why am i
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struggling with this I've never been
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involved in this before well this is why
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because you're carrying somebody else's
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stuff with you and that's why you're
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having such a struggle with it exactly
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and so people struggle daily with other
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people's fat baggage and they're not
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sure why and they think it's oh it's
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just a bad it's just bad
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he was just a journey yeah she was just
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blah blah blah
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and it isn't nothing we're not we're not
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going there that's how we're talking
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about but it could be all this other
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stuff that residual stuff that you're
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carrying and you say well not in the
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church well honey let me tell you yeah
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into the church and by the church I mean
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the church body the Christian body that
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the body of Jesus you know because he's
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had and where'd the body yeah this does
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go on and maybe it occurred before they
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were Christians right but when we we
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come before the Lord you know Justin
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attended my daughter's Church here in
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North Philly uh great shirts great
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shirts a love her church and they had an
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evangelist there and of course he leads
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a people in a sinner's prayer Lord
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forgive me for my sins you know we miss
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the generational we miss you know the
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sexual we miss all that and maybe that's
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not appropriate for but oh now you're
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clean you can walk free we do a
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disservice by not explaining that there
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are more things that may need to be
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confessed when we do that so just kind
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of a an odd thing that caught me
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yesterday I was like I want to add
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[Laughter]
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[Laughter]
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though so again we can have ungodly
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sexual assult eyes we can also have
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ungodly soul ties that are emotional so
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we think of you we first thought is
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sexual I think that's the first thing
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that we go to is that their sexual and
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we have to cut those and yes but we can
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also have emotional soul ties that's
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point three you can have an unhealthy
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ungodly anything that is that is taking
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you farther away from God or pulling you
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away from God it's going to be an
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unhealthy ungodly soul tie so with your
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children you can have ungodly soul ties
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maybe you're super controlling or maybe
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they are so dependent on you that for
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everything that it becomes unhealthy
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there's there can be a healthy element
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to that but then there's also can be an
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unhealthy element to that relationship
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with your children or with your parents
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if you're younger and your parents are
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still around
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sometimes there's ungodly codependency
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relationships there your parents are so
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dependent on you for everything or or
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you are dependent on them for everything
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that it there's an unhealthy element in
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there now there's there's healthy there
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can be godly healthy relationships but
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then when it starts becoming a negative
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impact in your life and becomes a
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negative influence in your life and
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you're noticing that negative elements
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that are coming as a result then you
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need to examine that relationship to see
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if there is an ungodly soul tie it can
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be between friends you could have really
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close relationships with friend but then
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there could be this thing that goes on
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these dynamics and their friendship that
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goes on and you're back and forth and
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and up and down and all around and you
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need to discover what that unhealthy
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part of that is so that you can break
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that unhealthy with leaders with your
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church leaders with your bosses with
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your any leaders in your life there can
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be an ungodly unhealthy relationship
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there with your spouse you can have
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healthy good soul ties which are godly
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but then if there's problems going on
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that you're constantly fighting and
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strife and and all these other things
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going on or you're so dependent on your
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spouse one way or another that that it
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becomes unhealthy because you can't do
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anything without them and without
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without their their input or without
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them you have no life of your own as a
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result that's unhealthy that's not a
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healthy relationship so you have to
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understand that there could be
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codependency going on there and realize
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that you have to break that portion of
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that soul tie to read so that you can
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maintain and keep the godly in place yes
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there is a godly portion but you you
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want to break off the ungodly part and
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so that you can grow so your
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relationship with that person can grow
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and flourish and become healthy again
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sometimes you may have ungodly emotional
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ties to famous people or
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or rockstars or people that you put up
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on a pedestal thinking that oh my
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goodness that you know they are just the
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amazing most amazing person sometimes
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it's evangelists and pastors and leaders
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spiritual leaders and you have to
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examine those relationships sometimes
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can be with old boyfriends you think
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about them all the time and they
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constantly come up well if I was with
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so-and-so then you know this wouldn't be
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happening or if so-and-so if I had you
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know and and it can cause a negative
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impact in your life in your
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relationships with others and you know
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one of the things that Patti and I went
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to the same ministry school together and
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we interned in the same ministry office
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you know go figure we were pastoral care
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and our mentors were there Sumida who's
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now sue EADS staff Janet Sudduth we had
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dear dear friends there Judy Bryant
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loved Miss Judy I learned so much from
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that woman Connie Russ our Secretary of
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the pastoral office and then of course
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our our deliverance mentor bill Sudduth
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and we were all there together Patsy and
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I and it was just always fabulous I mean
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you know what what dream to be
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ministering before the Lord when the
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Holy Ghost was free to do whatever he
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wanted to do and you were there with
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your ventures and your best friends I
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mean how perfect could that be and you
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know there came a time after I got
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married that we felt it was time for me
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to move on
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and I really didn't want to cut you know
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we can use the term the umbilical cord I
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really did not want to leave that office
23:42
because everything was there it was so
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awesome but the blow was slowing down
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and getting a little slower and some
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other things that happened and I really
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began to think I should probably go and
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Dean and I talked about it and I just
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did not want to leave my friends I did
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not want to and because I you know I
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have this correct close very awesome
24:05
relationship with Patsy but we had that
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in this large circle it's hard to
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explain how awesome it was and never to
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have been created since other than Patsy
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and I have probably gotten closer not
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probably I know we have but in that time
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my one of my mentors Janet said to me I
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was talking a little bit about it and
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she said what's going on
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I just don't I just don't know and she
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said she stopped she said yeah that's
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what's great about mentors they'll speak
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into your life you know and she said
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well right now in the name of Jesus
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Cynthia I love you and I don't want you
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to go for me but I want you to go if
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that's what God wants so right now we
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need to break the soul ties between us
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so that might I your relationship your
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friendship your honor of me is not
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holding you back from what God wants to
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do because so much God what so many
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times we see that God wants to do things
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in our lives and something holds us back
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could it potentially be they so tie with
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something or someone and so we broke the
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tie and I actually ended up leaving that
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position and moving on to the next place
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so you know that's a example in my own
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life of an emotional friendship tie and
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then I have a want to talk a little bit
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about having a soul time with a place
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these are the two that a lot of
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deliverance ministers people who are in
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homeless don't talk about they talk
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about the sexual but they don't talk
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about the emotional friendship or being
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tied up see now I use the opposite of
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what the Patsey did when Deuteronomy
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when he says my life is tied up in the
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boy yes we love our children but our
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life is shouldn't be tied up in anything
25:50
other than God himself and I realize
25:52
that there is tremendous pain when
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someone loses a child well she didn't
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actually end up doing but we never need
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to be in such a way that our life is
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through someone else our life only
26:02
should be through Jesus Christ and the
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father himself but so I was ministering
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with a dear friend and we were out of
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town I don't want to say because I don't
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want to give notice to this woman it was
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many years ago and she was a very
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wealthy woman and lovely lovely lady and
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she was just unhappy and we began to
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talk to her and as we were interviewing
26:26
her and talking to her about her life
26:27
she began to talk about when she lived
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when she was a little girl in the
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mountains of Kentucky and she went on it
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was such a cute story about you know
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being living in the holler and you know
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all that in
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being barefoot and you know living in a
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shack and you know all that kind of
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stuff that we look at we think oh how
26:45
quaint you know and and how wonderful of
26:48
a life you know running through the
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woods and you know growing food and you
26:54
know there's nothing wrong with growing
26:55
food living in the woods and all that
26:56
but you know as you begin to talk to her
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you know you begin to realize you know
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where you oh no we were dirt poor you
27:03
know we had to have people bring us food
27:04
and we were just dirt floor and but she
27:07
just so romanticized the wonderfulness
27:09
of living in the hills of Kentucky so as
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we went through her life her husband was
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an executive at a very large oil company
27:18
I won't say the name she had lived all
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over the world she lived in Spain and
27:23
she lived in all these places and she
27:25
lived in very spectacular homes she had
27:28
servants she had fur she had diamonds
27:30
she had cars she had you know not just
27:32
card the cars and she had everything
27:35
that a woman would say what a fabulous
27:39
luxurious life you know the Hollywood
27:42
lifestyle but she could just never be
27:45
happy with it you know she just you know
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it's just not the same as living in the
27:50
hills of Kentucky and so um just kind of
27:54
out of the blue you know we were like
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holy spirit you know this is the first
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time I'd ever run into this and so I
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asked the Holy Spirit about it and break
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the snow ties with her home place and I
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was like so we did we let her in a
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prayer to break the soul ties of her
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life as a little girl now it didn't
28:15
negate how wonderful it was but her
28:18
heart was owed it was like it was stuck
28:21
to glue to like Patsy's illustration to
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there and all the 25 years that she had
28:27
been married to her husband and he
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lavished her with love and gifts but she
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could not receive them in the manner in
28:36
which they were given because her heart
28:38
was still in Kentucky right and I had a
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situation too that it was similar when I
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moved to Pensacola I had a nice house in
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Oregon that I just absolutely loved and
28:50
it was fun five acres with horses and
28:53
animals and my kids grew up in that
28:54
house we had the markings on the wall
28:56
you know for their showing how tall they
28:58
got and everything I absolutely loved
29:01
that house and we moved to Pensacola and
29:02
and we had bought a very very nice house
29:06
in Pensacola that was just beautiful but
29:08
I just could not enjoy or appreciate the
29:12
house in Pensacola simply because I was
29:16
thinking so much about the house in
29:18
Oregon and all I did and I kept
29:21
continually thinking about the house in
29:23
Oregon over and over and over and I
29:26
thought oh you know I wish I was back in
29:27
Oregon I wish I you know and and didn't
29:30
have any idea that it could be a soul
29:33
tie with a house because that just I
29:35
didn't understand that until I went to
29:37
ministry and realized oh my gosh that's
29:40
what's going on I have a soul tie with
29:43
that house in Oregon and so when I broke
29:45
that soul tie it was amazing all of a
29:48
sudden I could see our new house in
29:50
Pensacola with new eyes and it was like
29:52
wow this is such a nice house you gave
29:54
us Lord this is beautiful
29:55
I don't know I couldn't appreciate it
29:58
before until I realized that I had
29:59
broken the soul tied with that house and
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so also as we said ungodly soul ties can
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be sexual or they can be emotional or
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they can be with a place or they can be
30:11
with things so 0.5 is soul toys can be
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with things hoarders
30:17
people who have to have all these things
30:18
in their houses have to buy and buy and
30:21
buy and buy and buy and I know right now
30:24
with the coronavirus that we've been
30:25
going through a lot of people are buying
30:26
online because it's really easy I've had
30:29
friends laughing and mention about how
30:31
oh my goodness you know I don't know
30:33
what's coming with ups but you know it
30:35
could be a llama this time I don't know
30:38
because they're ordering because you
30:41
know you can't get out and shop as well
30:42
but so but it can be with things because
30:44
I grew I moved a lot growing up I was in
30:47
the Navy my dad was in the Navy and so
30:49
we moved from place to place well the
30:51
only thing that stayed constant were the
30:52
things and so I had a real attachment to
30:56
things and material things were very
30:58
important because those were my security
31:00
and I hadn't realized that until we went
31:03
through this ministry and then I
31:04
realized wait a minute
31:06
you know things are so important they
31:09
shouldn't be that important to me you
31:10
know I mean things are nice to have but
31:12
it shouldn't be something that I have to
31:14
have everything in place and everything
31:15
has to you know and everything's so
31:17
important so you have to examine your
31:19
life and see you know they are there
31:20
things that are important
31:21
do I have old pictures or keepsakes from
31:25
old relationships that I'm hanging on to
31:27
because oh my goodness I was so in love
31:29
with that person and so that's so
31:31
important those kinds of things can
31:33
become a soul tie in your life those
31:36
kinds of possessions so you have to say
31:38
I'm a ninja see are these positions more
31:40
important to me then then go ahead am i
31:44
are they becoming coming between me and
31:46
God am i putting too much emphasis on
31:49
those are they unhealthy attachment are
31:51
they an unhealthy attachment in my life
31:54
and I think that's such a great
31:56
illustration Patsy I always love it when
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you talk about it because I don't come
32:00
from a military family we didn't move a
32:02
whole lot I think I moved two times that
32:05
I remember what you know some more times
32:06
when I was a baby but I pretty much grew
32:09
up within and the two times I did move I
32:11
moved within a mile of you know growing
32:13
up now we made a Dean and I have made up
32:15
for since then but you know the idea of
32:18
the things is what made you feel at home
32:21
right you know that's a good thing as
32:23
you're growing up that that you know
32:24
your mother put it out you guys could
32:26
enter into into a new place but we don't
32:28
see how those things carry over into our
32:31
life right so that leads us to our sixth
32:34
point and that is you know the good news
32:36
is always say the good news the good
32:37
news is is you can repent and that's
32:39
really true that is always the good news
32:41
the good news is that we can repent and
32:43
the good news is is that we can get free
32:45
we can cut those ties and we can be free
32:48
from our soul ties so we need to make
32:50
sure that no one no thing no place takes
32:56
God's place in our lives you know we
32:58
could really equate it to Idol idol
33:00
worship in really as far as that goes
33:03
it's really very much tied to that
33:06
concept now we need to be honest before
33:08
God and we need to be willing to repent
33:11
you know if you're having issues with
33:13
something or something controls you to
33:15
the place you just can't you know we've
33:18
heard stories of
33:19
parents who just couldn't handle when
33:21
their child went to school I wouldn't
33:24
let them grow up because they were so
33:26
attached to them that's unhealthy for
33:28
your child as well as it's something
33:30
healthy for you we've heard situations
33:34
where you know people would carry around
33:37
pictures of former relationships and
33:40
they're married to someone else
33:42
oh here look weren't they beautiful and
33:44
you're like seriously we need to get rid
33:47
of that and so you know ask the Holy
33:49
Spirit ask him Lord you know there's
33:52
lots of times you know Patsy and I still
33:54
to this day say Lourdes or something
33:56
that I'm more attached to than you show
33:59
it to me Lord because I want all that
34:01
you have for me I want to be totally
34:03
whole and totally free to be the person
34:06
that you created me to be so we need to
34:08
ask we need to be the good news remember
34:10
is to weaken repent so we need to be
34:12
willing to repent and to break those
34:14
soul ties you know we encourage people
34:17
to make a list and then pray over those
34:19
those items so Patsy I'm assuming we're
34:23
getting pretty close to time are we okay
34:26
so we're getting out of time today but
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our prayer for you is that you break
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free from any ungodly soul tie whether
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it be emotional whether it be spiritual
34:36
whether it be with a place would it be
34:38
with a person whether it be with your
34:40
things whether it be with your past see
34:43
and we pray that you can have that you
34:45
will obtain the healing and the
34:47
wholeness and the freedom so that you
34:50
can be all that he created you to be
34:52
so you know if you're having trouble
34:54
with that you can always contact us you
34:56
can go over to the website at real life
34:58
revised calm you can go you can send us
35:01
an email that's the word requesting that
35:02
you do if you need help trying to break
35:05
these things from your life or you'd
35:07
like a prayer because you're not sure
35:08
how to word it it's not about the words
35:10
it's about the heart intent but if you
35:12
would like to have a comprehensive so
35:14
type a prayer that you could pray over
35:17
the people the places and the things
35:20
send us an email you can send us an
35:22
e-mail at real life revised at gmail.com
35:25
I was trying to think what is our email
35:26
real life revised at gmail.com sometimes
35:29
things simple things are hard to
35:30
remember
35:31
harder so send us an email at real life
35:33
revised gmail.com and in the spirit in
35:36
the subject light right sulci prayer and
35:39
we'll be sure and get that over to you
35:40
so again Patsy is there anything else
35:44
that you'd like to share as we get ready
35:45
to close out today no I think that's
35:47
been covered yeah I think you know it's
35:50
just really really fabulous to think
35:52
about you know even in my own life you
35:54
know God show me is there anything that
35:56
I anything anything that I need to be
35:58
break free from because I want to
36:00
encompass all you have for me so we are
36:02
out of time today and we want you to be
36:04
all that he and be and do all that he
36:07
created you to be into and always we're
36:09
available if you need someone to walk
36:11
with you or talk with you you can
36:12
contact us as I said it there at the
36:14
website real life revised.